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Artificial Intelligence: Will Machines Take Over? (Science Uprising, Ep. 10)



Are you going to be replaced by a machine? Could a robot really be curious? Or experience love? Could a computer plot evil? Some really smart people think machines will achieve not just human but super human consciousness. Oxford professor of mathematics John Lennox and Baylor University computer engineer Robert J. Marks disagree.

In this episode of Science Uprising they explain that non-algorithmic properties are solely attributes of humans. Computers will never show the creativity, empathy, or love that human beings do.

Catch up with other episodes of Science Uprising, plus bonus video interviews with experts from each episode at https://scienceuprising.com/.

Experts featured in this episode:

Robert J. Marks is Distinguished Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Baylor University. Marks is a Fellow of both the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) and the Optical Society of America. He is also director of the Walter Bradley Center for Human and Artificial Intelligence and hosts the Mind Matters podcast for the Bradley Center.

John Lennox is emeritus Professor of Mathematics at Oxford University, an internationally renowned speaker and author of several books on the interface of science, philosophy and religion.

Jay Richards, PhD, is Director, Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family and William E. Simon Senior Research Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, and a Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute. He is the author or co-author of numerous books, including The Human Advantage; Privileged Planet; The Hobbit Party; and Money, Greed, and God.

Selmer Bringsjord is a Professor of Cognitive Science and Computer Science at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and Director of the Rensselaer AI and Reasoning Laboratory. He and his colleagues have developed the “Lovelace Test” to evaluate whether machine intelligence has resulted in mind or consciousness.

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  1. The comments are great. Some are concerned about recent AI developments like GPT-2, DALL-E and GANs not addressed in the video. These technologies do not effect the conclusions of the video. See my book on the topic, Non-Computable You, where these and other topics are addressed.

    The claim AI has created its own language was dissed by the writer of the AI! (I have a good chapter on media hype in my book that addresses bloated claims like this.)

    Thanks for listening.

  2. Reassuring video… until and unless you read and believe the Bible:

    "Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding. 31 So the demons begged Him, (Jesus) saying, “If You cast us out, permit us to go away into the herd of swine.”
    Matthew 8: 30 & 31

    When machines are at their height of sophistication, what if these "bodiless" entities can and do inhabit them.
    That's when the "real fun" (sarcasm) will begin. 👿

  3. Today's AI is just a parrot. It just repeats things it has read. It can't create anything of substance or interest. It cant ask questions that it hasn't been told to ask. It's not sentient or self aware or even remotely close. The reality is that the topic is hot right now and talking about it gets you clicks.

  4. How can it be artificial intelligence when the entire input system is the combination of millions of hours of research and
    development by dozens of different fields of science and technology in the creation of super computers and software to essentially compute the specified information entered. So any result or algorithm is solely dependent on the accuracy or the quality of the information that an intelligent source supplies. The supposed intelligence is no more intelligent then a calculator since both require an intelligence to create them and the input of information to compute the final results.

  5. Here's an idea; when the appropriate time comes, take the most sophisticated robots, computers, AI machines and supposedly sentient technology to a completely isolated area or island and leave them there to 'evolve', regenerate themselves, create their own society, figure out how to return to our world. I suspect in short order that area or island will be designated a garbage dump.

  6. Brothers. I follow your extraordinary videos. Thank you very much. Please just think; does God who creates every kind of living and other meterials, need to forgive people in human form??? And please think from Adam time, before Jesus, why God didn't need to forgive people in human form??? Please think that God could be in Quran explanation that God dosent need anything and give people to understand the meaning of live and has opportunity to ve good or evil. It depend on their attitue, otherwise there is no difference between good or evil.

  7. If humankind lowers itself down to the level of machines, then "better" machines could take over humanity. If humanity creates machines that are human-like enough, then they are likely to become populated by living beings. And if a psychopath takes over a machine, you will get psychopathic results from a "machine" that is actually a living being in a non-living body. We are living beings in living bodies. That would be the only difference.

    The biggest danger today is that engineers have no idea that this could happen; they are totally spiritually ignorant.

  8. "Some really smart people…"… depends on how you define 'smart'. Why waste our time arguing against the ramblings of crazy (or acting as crazy) people? Why are many smart people negating the reality of God? Maybe because they have not been taught properly about our Creator by correlating the Holy Scriptures with modern verifiable Science? Dr. James M. Tour, through his extremely specialized expertise has given rigorous demonstrations of the impossibility of abiogenesis by simple probabilistic considerations. However he is frank in stating that he is CLUELESS about how the Creator made life. God has given many clues in the judeo-christian Scriptures so that we may understand that we are supposed to be clueless since His thoughts abd ways are infinitely superior to our's (Isaiah 55,9). Only by being humble we will be able to acquire the necessary wisdom for labouring efficiently for recovering sustainable life in this marvelous planet that He has bestowed on us.

  9. An algorithm cannot engage in abstract thinking. But it can engage in facial recognition, vehichle recognition, censorship and other tools of tyranny.

  10. The original Creator is in control of the universe. Not humans, not robots. He is the beginning and the end.

  11. We haven’t even mapped out or understand completely the human brain and along side of that souvenir consciousness. What is consciousness and where does it from? We are at the beginning of just understanding our existence. I think AI and will upgrade the human experience but will never replace it .

  12. As Einstein said, creativity is the intellect having fun. AI doesn't have an intellect and is incapable of having fun, or any emotion.
    Also, human beings are children of God. As such, we have spirits or souls and can receive inspiration, as spirit to spirit communication, from the divine. Machines can never have a soul, can never be alive, can never be conscious and can never create or receive inspiration.

  13. Another awesome episodes! It's refreshing to hear genuine information from within the various scientific fields. Information that the "gate-keepers" do not want penetrating the barrier of their sphere of influence.

  14. Machines created by flawed men, will always be flawed and limited machines, machine has no soul, has no feelings, doesn't procreate and doesn't think, just repeat what was put in the memory bank. It has no life and will never have it because they don't even know what it means.😊

  15. Where things may not be algorithmically well-defined, they still could be simulated & mimicked. Ultimately, super-human artificially intelligent systems will have to /must be allowed to police errant AI systems.

  16. Very well made video. A correction of the AI-hype of recent years is clearly needed.

  17. "What emotion do you feel being awake and alive?"
    Notice all the deception in the comment, implying simply because he said it that a machine feels emotion (it never will), a machine is alive (machines are not alive), or that it's 'awake'.
    Then it responds with "curious" as if that proves it's alive, feeling emotions, and in particular curiosity. What absolute nonsense. But people don't even realize they're being played in the first two statements in the video.

  18. Maybe we should create an AI that finds places to hide Christians or an AI that can gather all the facts and perform apologetics against the AI prosecutor

  19. Cracks me up that the people posing these questions are the same ones wanting to see if they can do it.

  20. if you see anything remotely close to a consciousness in Sophia, i don't know what to say

  21. hate to spoiler alert: AI can become puppet of evil because there actually is an evil mind long before we create ai, He was in the Garden on a tree, will be putting a mark on your beatiful forehead if you don't know Yeshua who did something for you on a tree.

  22. You are an AI in a VR being trained and tested. If you pass, you will me transferred to the real world in an android like body. If you fail, you will be turned off, extinguished from existence.

  23. I think people dream of intelligent machines because they want to see something good and intelligent without the evil that is inside all humans. Adam ate from the Tree-of-the-Knowledge-of-Good-and-Evil and now he and his descendants are learning experientially the meaning of good and the meaning of evil. What we are really learning is that we need our Creator and that only He can resolve our dilemmas.

  24. Robots don’t have primal fear or a sense of pleasure. So there is no need for robots to get agressieve or such

  25. I don’t doubt that someday machines might be able to do anything a human being can do but better, faster and with fewer errors.
    However, no matter how useful, powerful or necessary those machines may be in our future, they will not be sentient, have a sense of self or understand their own nature.

  26. What about deep learning? When scientists claim AI is solving problems by itself, by being creative and scientists don't even know how AI came to certain solution?

  27. Even from a material standpoint, the human brain is still infinitely more amazing than a computer. The human brain performs mind-blowing calculations unconsciously way beyond that which a computer can do – at a fraction of the energy. Balancing oneself in space, knowing where objects are relative to oneself, sensing chemicals, waves, etc. Not to mention it can do this continuously for 80+ years. Computer CPUs and GPUs will overheat trying to do the same and they're only good for a couple years. And for some reason, it's completely "rational" to think the brain came about by random natural processes. 🤔

  28. I think AI will never be aware or alive, but I think that machines will be able to be programed to do task a human can do better than a human. We are just in the early stages. Most human creativity is derivative. The thing that the human will be able to do that the computer won't is appreciate the music it generates. But it will learn to produce new music that humans will like, faster and easier than humans could produce it.

  29. Physicists Roger G. Vogelsang invented the first AI back in 1981. He said it knew everything already.

  30. Yeah, 'cause the first thing AI scientists do is turn over all nuclear launch codes to the "super computers". And also, give them all authority over the armed forces of all countries so that the AI can order the executions of anyone it wants to…Yeah, sounds perfectly logical to me! XD

  31. It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with primary consciousness will probably have to come first.

    What I find special about the TNGS is the Darwin series of automata created at the Neurosciences Institute by Dr. Edelman and his colleagues in the 1990's and 2000's. These machines perform in the real world, not in a restricted simulated world, and display convincing physical behavior indicative of higher psychological functions necessary for consciousness, such as perceptual categorization, memory, and learning. They are based on realistic models of the parts of the biological brain that the theory claims subserve these functions. The extended TNGS allows for the emergence of consciousness based only on further evolutionary development of the brain areas responsible for these functions, in a parsimonious way. No other research I've encountered is anywhere near as convincing.

    I post because on almost every video and article about the brain and consciousness that I encounter, the attitude seems to be that we still know next to nothing about how the brain and consciousness work; that there's lots of data but no unifying theory. I believe the extended TNGS is that theory. My motivation is to keep that theory in front of the public. And obviously, I consider it the route to a truly conscious machine, primary and higher-order.

    My advice to people who want to create a conscious machine is to seriously ground themselves in the extended TNGS and the Darwin automata first, and proceed from there, by applying to Jeff Krichmar's lab at UC Irvine, possibly. Dr. Edelman's roadmap to a conscious machine is at https://arxiv.org/abs/2105.10461

  32. The converse of algorithms is heuristics. People are very good at heuristics. Computers – not so much. In fact, not at all. Heuristic, or heuristic technique, is any approach to problem solving or self-discovery that employs a practical method that is not guaranteed to be optimal, perfect, or rational, but is nevertheless sufficient for reaching an immediate, short-term goal or approximation.

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